15:00:23 <mburns> #startmeeting oVirt Weekly Sync
15:00:23 <ovirtbot> Meeting started Wed Jan 16 15:00:23 2013 UTC.  The chair is mburns. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:00:29 <mburns> #topic agenda and roll call
15:00:33 <mburns> Agenda:
15:00:39 <mburns> Release Status (Beta)
15:00:48 <mburns> Workshops
15:01:09 <mburns> Infra report (including new servers from alterway
15:01:11 <mburns> )
15:02:19 * oschreib_ here
15:02:55 * quaid here
15:03:13 * aglitke here
15:03:56 * goacid here
15:04:28 <mburns> #topic release status
15:04:52 <mburns> #info we're supposed to be posting the beta versions of packages
15:05:03 <mburns> #info (actually were supposed to do this yesterday)
15:05:10 * dneary here
15:05:21 <mburns> oschreib_: do we have ovirt-engine packages posted?
15:05:29 <oschreib_> ovirt-engine build takes forever. once build is ready I'll post it.
15:05:49 <oschreib_> (running for 2 hours now, on  a very fast server)
15:06:04 <mburns> oschreib_: ok, thanks
15:06:11 <oschreib_> I didn't see any branches/builds for iso-uploader/log-collector
15:06:20 <oschreib_> smae for cli/sdk
15:06:30 <mburns> #info engine builds running now, to be posted when complete
15:06:48 <mburns> #info vdsm build is available in fedora updates testing, but not core fedora yet
15:06:48 * Rydekull is here, listening in the background
15:07:10 <mburns> #info vdsm packages downloaded from koji and loaded into beta area on ovirt.org
15:07:19 <mburns> #info otopi and ovirt-host-deploy built and uploaded
15:07:25 * ofrenkel here
15:07:47 <mburns> #info ovirt-node and ovirt-node iso are coming shortly, but needed vdsm and ovirt-host-deploy uploaded first
15:07:58 <mburns> #info build run, now in smoketesting prior to posting
15:08:11 <mburns> aglitke: any updates on mom builds?
15:08:32 <aglitke> mburns: We are sticking with the upstream version for this release.
15:08:48 <mburns> aglitke: ok
15:08:56 <oschreib_> mpastern: when will we have cli/sdk bracnhes/builds for beta/
15:09:05 <mburns> aglitke: is that the one shipped with fedora?
15:09:37 <aglitke> mburns: yep.  Is that ok or do we need a process to copy it to the ovirt releases/ dir?
15:09:55 <mburns> aglitke: as long as it's in fedora or fedora-updates, then it's fine in fedora
15:10:04 <aglitke> ok.
15:10:11 <mburns> i only had to copy vdsm since it wasn't in updates or base repo yet
15:10:26 <mburns> #info mom from fedora is good
15:11:35 <mburns> #info still waiting on cli/sdk
15:12:06 <mburns> #info still waiting on log-collector image-uploader iso-uploader guest-agent
15:12:27 <mburns> oschreib_: do you know who owns each of these? ^^
15:12:44 <oschreib_> mburns: mpastern owns cli/sdk
15:13:03 <oschreib_> mburns: Keith still owns log-collector/image/iso
15:13:19 * lh here
15:13:44 <mburns> kroberts: any updates on beta builds for log-collector and image and iso uploaders?
15:16:14 <mburns> can we release beta without packages for these?
15:16:59 <mburns> they're all things i think we should have, but none of them are *required* to use oVirt
15:17:23 <aglitke> mburns: are there alpha packages?
15:17:43 <aglitke> if there are no critical updates, perhaps we can just "promote" the alpha packages.
15:18:00 <aglitke> leaving it open to update these again before ga.
15:18:03 <oschreib_> aglitke: the difference should be the branching
15:18:13 <mburns> aglitke: there are alpha for all but guest-agent
15:18:24 <aglitke> ok
15:18:24 <mburns> and the previous stable version should continue to work, iiuc
15:18:49 <mburns> but yes, we need to get the branching done, though i'd be ok with releasing beta without the branch
15:19:03 <aglitke> So I wouldn't hold up beta if the current packages won't block its use.
15:19:48 <aglitke> we can knock some heads together in the background while the alpha packages stand-in for the missing beta ones.
15:19:54 <mburns> any objections to that course of action?
15:20:55 <mburns> #info proposal:  leave alpha packages in beta for missing packages and get updated packages in background
15:21:50 <oschreib_> I don't see any other option, so ACK
15:21:54 <aglitke> +1 (for my own proposal) :)
15:22:04 <mburns> +1 from me too
15:22:12 <mburns> 3 votes for, none against, so agreed
15:22:39 <mburns> #agreed will move into beta with alpha packages for guest-agent, log-collector, iso and image uploaders, sdk/cli
15:22:56 <mburns> #info steps left to start beta:
15:23:09 <mburns> #info 1.  upload new ovirt-engine rpms
15:23:35 <mburns> #info 2.  finalize smoketesting, build, and post ovirt-node and ovirt-node-iso rpms
15:23:45 <mburns> #info 3.  send announcement
15:23:54 <mburns> anything else i'm missing?
15:24:47 <aglitke> Don't think so
15:25:05 <mburns> oschreib_: can you follow up with mpastern and kroberts?
15:25:16 <oschreib_> mburns: I'll try
15:25:26 <mburns> oschreib_: thanks
15:25:43 <mburns> #action oschreib_ to follow up with mpastern and kroberts for beta branching and packaging
15:25:54 <mburns> #action mburns to finish ovirt-node related beta tasks
15:26:01 <mburns> #action mburns to send out beta announcement
15:26:29 <mburns> one other request for maintainers -- please keep the tracker bug updated with release blocking issues
15:26:33 <mburns> #info one other request for maintainers -- please keep the tracker bug updated with release blocking issues
15:26:48 <mburns> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=881006
15:28:04 <mburns> any other topics on the status of the 3.2 release?
15:28:25 <mburns> #info Test Day scheduled for 24-Jan (Next Thursday)
15:29:27 <mburns> ok, moving on then
15:29:33 <mburns> #topic workshops
15:29:39 <mburns> lh: dneary:  the floor is yours
15:29:47 <mburns> #chair dneary lh oschreib_
15:29:47 <ovirtbot> Current chairs: dneary lh mburns oschreib_
15:29:50 <dneary> Hi
15:30:08 <dneary> OK - no news on workshop in Shanghai, and time keeps moving on.
15:30:23 <dneary> I will have news on that front next week.
15:30:31 <dneary> For Sunnyvale, all is well
15:30:52 <mburns> #info no updates on Shanghai workshop, updates coming next week
15:30:57 <dneary> We managed to extend registration for a couple of days, people can still register until tomorrow, but there are not very many places left
15:31:14 <dneary> We confirmed that capacity will be 90 for the event, and we have 7 places left before we're full.
15:31:23 <mburns> #info registration for Sunnyvale (NetApp) is open until tomorrow
15:32:11 <dneary> The oVirt board meeting is arranged, and there will be a good attendance at it. We are also organising remote attendance for anyone who might like to participate as an observer - please contact me directly for that
15:33:06 <mburns> #info Board Meeting is arranged, good attendance expected
15:33:21 <mburns> #info for remote participation at the board meeting, please contact dneary
15:33:25 <dneary> mburns, I'm looking forward to seeing you all next week!
15:33:51 <mburns> dneary: thanks, i'm looking forward to it too
15:34:50 <mburns> #info not really a workshop, but somewhat related -- I'll be attending FUDCon this weekend and will propose both a talk on oVirt and will work with people who want to deploy oVirt
15:35:21 <mburns> #info please feel free to say hi if you're also attending
15:35:46 <mburns> dneary: lh:  anything else for the workshops?
15:36:27 <lh> mburns, dneary's summary is excellent, nothing to add
15:36:35 <dneary> Unless there are any questions...
15:36:41 * mburns pauses for questions
15:37:26 <aglitke> one comment...
15:37:37 <aglitke> Regarding the Shanghai workshop.
15:38:16 <aglitke> We are awaiting details on this so we can plan to send some of our Beijing guys.  Next week is okay for details, but later might become problematic.
15:38:30 <aglitke> Since the dates will be fast upon is.
15:38:32 <aglitke> us
15:39:02 <aglitke> That's all I have.
15:39:33 <lh> aglitke, noted. last discussion was focused on mid-March, but that clearly needs to be nailed down. we'll double our efforts here.
15:40:01 <lh> aglitke, or I could check the wiki and see that we have a confirmed date, 20-21 March
15:40:02 <lh> http://wiki.ovirt.org/OVirt_Global_Workshops#oVirt_Workshop_at_Intel_Campus
15:40:18 <lh> However, we still need to confirm with Susie Li at Intel that this is moving forward, and shall do.
15:40:32 <aglitke> lh, ok thanks
15:41:08 <quaid> #action lh to confirm with Intel we are "go" for Shanghai workshop on 20 - 21 March
15:41:12 <mburns> #info Shanghai dates are confirmed for 20-21 March
15:41:20 <mburns> #chair quaid
15:41:20 <ovirtbot> Current chairs: dneary lh mburns oschreib_ quaid
15:41:31 <lh> #info getting reconfirmation from Intel that 20-21 March dates are locked
15:41:41 <lh> what quaid said
15:41:44 <mburns> ;-)
15:41:49 <mburns> ok, moving on
15:41:56 * lh goes back to be distracting by other IRC conversations
15:42:10 <mburns> #topic Infrastructure report
15:42:20 <mburns> #info AlterWay Servers are available
15:42:27 <mburns> #info dneary has connection information
15:43:08 <dneary> mburns, I would appreciate us putting a bit of structure on the infra team so that we know who has access to what, how new people get access, and who decides what we do with new hardware
15:43:18 <quaid> oh nice
15:43:29 <mburns> dneary: agreed, but a topic for the monday infra meeting, i think
15:43:45 <dneary> Between Red Hat, RackSpace, Infiniband and AlterWay hardware, it will quickly become a mess if we don't have someone thinking about the big picture
15:43:49 <dneary> Yeah
15:44:03 <dneary> I agree it's for infra
15:44:06 * quaid looks askance at dneary :)
15:44:07 <mburns> quaid: can you add this to the agenda for next week's meeting?
15:44:13 <quaid> sure
15:44:21 <dneary> But as I won't be at that meeting on Tuesday, I wanted to get on here
15:44:33 <mburns> dneary: infra is monday, iirc
15:45:33 * dneary sneaks a peek back at quaid
15:45:57 <mburns> quaid: dneary:  any other updates from the infra side?
15:46:07 * dneary defers to quaid
15:46:15 <quaid> #info New hosts from RackSpace due in a few weeks
15:47:10 <quaid> #info I will be on vacation and travelling in Europe starting 25 Jan through 08 Feb (with a work/FOSDEM break on 31 - 02), so we'll be discussing coverage on infra@
15:47:40 <quaid> #info Jenkins will be moving to Alter Way, migration plan forthcoming with details to discuss before finalized on arch@
15:48:23 <quaid> ... I think that's all
15:48:23 <ovirtbot> quaid: Error: ".." is not a valid command.
15:49:05 <mburns> ok
15:49:08 <mburns> thanks quaid
15:49:13 <mburns> #topic Other topics
15:49:55 <mburns> #info due to travel and the oVirt Workshop, mburns likely won't be around for the weekly next week
15:50:01 <mburns> oschreib_: can you run this meeting next week?
15:51:06 <mburns> any other topics to discuss?
15:52:08 <mburns> #info mburns will try to get someone else to handle this meeting next week
15:52:22 <mburns> if there is nothing else, we can close
15:52:27 <oschreib_> mburns: I'm not sure
15:52:57 <mburns> oschreib_: ok
15:53:54 <mburns> going once...
15:54:36 <mburns> twice..
15:55:58 <mburns> gone.
15:56:00 <mburns> thanks all
15:56:02 <mburns> #endmeeting