15:00:24 <mburns> #startmeeting oVirt Weekly Meeting
15:00:24 <ovirtbot> Meeting started Wed Mar  6 15:00:24 2013 UTC.  The chair is mburns. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:00:30 * doron_ here
15:00:34 <mburns> #chair oschreib_ dneary quaid ewoud
15:00:34 <ovirtbot> Current chairs: dneary ewoud mburns oschreib_ quaid
15:00:42 <mburns> #topic agenda and roll call
15:00:46 <mburns> #info Agenda
15:00:57 <mburns> #info * Release Planning and Updates
15:01:06 <mburns> #info * Conferences and Workshops
15:01:20 * oschreib_ here
15:01:24 <mburns> #info * Sub-project Reports
15:02:02 * dustins here
15:02:39 * lh here
15:03:44 <mburns> #topic Release Planning
15:04:15 <mburns> #info release management wiki page is up for 3.3
15:04:17 <mburns> #link http://wiki.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3_release-management
15:04:24 <YamaKasY> here
15:04:34 <YamaKasY> 3.3 ? and what about 3.2 ?
15:04:45 * theron here
15:05:00 * YamaKasY here
15:05:01 <YamaKasY> :)
15:05:11 <oschreib_> when do we talk about 3.2.1?
15:05:22 <mburns> oschreib_: we can discuss after 3.3 stuff
15:05:27 <mburns> which should be quick...
15:05:40 <oschreib_> YamaKasY: 3.2 is already out....
15:05:49 <YamaKasY> oschreib_: yes but far from stable
15:06:06 <mburns> #info mburns has sent a request for feature pages and project contacts for 3.3
15:06:31 <mburns> #info no responses yet (but that's because I just sent it this morning)
15:07:05 <mburns> #info mburns also sent out email about overall project management process going forward to arch@ and board@
15:07:36 <dneary> mburns, Which list?
15:07:53 <mburns> dneary: feature requests and contacts went to arch@
15:08:02 <dneary> mburns, I also sent some material to Moran - will send in response to your email onn arch@ also
15:08:03 <mburns> project management went to arch and board
15:08:48 <mburns> #info dneary and mgoldboi have also been working on the overall release process, material will be sent to arch and board in response to mburns email
15:09:18 <mburns> only other thing i have to say about 3.3 planning at this point --
15:09:38 <mburns> #info Please get feature pages created in the wiki ASAP and link them to the release management page
15:10:10 <mburns> anyone have any input on 3.3?
15:11:21 <mburns> ok
15:11:36 <mburns> #topic oVirt 3.2  Updates
15:11:41 <oschreib_> ok
15:11:55 <mburns> #info ovirt-node pushed live last thursday including vdsm and fix for a security issue
15:11:56 <oschreib_> YamaKasY: any specific bug?
15:12:29 <mburns> #info patches for el6 builds are included in engine master and proposed on engine-3.2 branch
15:12:44 <oschreib_> Juan and myself are currently testing them
15:12:58 <mburns> #info currently in testing by jhernand and oschreib_
15:13:07 <oschreib_> we want to create a unified spec for .el6 and f18
15:13:12 <oschreib_> so it takes some time.
15:13:51 <mburns> ack, i'm well aware...
15:13:54 <oschreib_> I believe we will be able to release next week.
15:14:08 <oschreib_> at least official f18 3.2.1
15:14:14 <oschreib_> and maybe beta of .el6
15:14:45 <mburns> #info beta of el6 packages and ga of f18 packages for engine 3.2.1 available next week
15:16:03 * mburns made no progress on el6 builds of vdsm last week
15:17:04 <mburns> YamaKasY: can you follow up with oschreib_ on issues with 3.2?
15:17:21 <mburns> maybe get bugs filed and add them to some tracker?
15:17:41 <YamaKasY> mburns: yes I can
15:17:45 <oschreib_> mburns: although I'm not sure what's the value of .el6 engine without vdsm.
15:17:57 <mburns> oschreib_: it's a step
15:18:01 <mgoldboi> +1
15:18:07 <oschreib_> YamaKasY: can you send me a list of relevant BZ's to oschreib@redhat.com
15:18:08 <mgoldboi> for the step
15:18:18 <mburns> i suspect that vdsm is pretty close
15:18:23 <mburns> just something broken in the spec
15:18:27 <YamaKasY> oschreib_: yes, I don't have them all here, so that will be tomorrow
15:18:28 <oschreib_> one question - should the .el6 engine manage Fedora hosts or .el6 hosts?
15:18:31 <mburns> just had no chance to try it
15:18:36 <oschreib_> YamaKasY: no hurry
15:18:39 <mburns> oschreib_: shouldn't matter...
15:18:44 <YamaKasY> oschreib_: okay!
15:18:52 <oschreib_> YamaKasY: cool, thanks!
15:18:58 <YamaKasY> oschreib_: you too!
15:19:32 <mburns> oschreib_: though i suspect that if you're running engine on el6, you want your hosts on el6
15:20:28 <mgoldboi> mburns, so we have where to go with it...
15:21:49 <mburns> i think we can't assume that though...
15:21:57 <oschreib_> mburns: that won't work until we will have working .el6 vdsm
15:22:04 <mburns> if they're running ovirt-node today, that's fedora only
15:22:13 <mburns> oschreib_: agreed
15:22:22 <mburns> i'll try to get on the vdsm stuff this week
15:24:01 <mburns> #info YamaKasY to work with oschreib_ on getting a list of issues in 3.2 that should be fixed in an async release
15:24:19 <mburns> #info mburns to try to get on top of el6 vdsm builds this week
15:24:38 <YamaKasY> what about the el6 repo for 3.2 ? is there any news yet ?
15:24:51 <mburns> YamaKasY: that's what we're talking about
15:24:54 <mburns> getting them ready
15:25:05 <mburns> engine should be available next week in a beta repo
15:25:16 <mburns> vdsm will hopefully be there by then as well...
15:26:01 <mburns> anything else for 3.2 updates?
15:26:03 <tfeldman> Does anyone know if there are ovirt guest agent rpms for fedora 15/16? and if so, where I would be able to get them?
15:26:26 <mburns> tfeldman: no, but you can try the f17 ones...
15:26:33 <mburns> fedora 15/16 are both EOL...
15:26:57 * mburns says that like he doesn't have machines running fedora 10 or 11...
15:28:00 <tfeldman> mburns, yep.  But thanks.  just wanted to know if they might be floating around somewhere.  I will try the 17 packages
15:28:08 <tfeldman> mburns, thanks
15:28:15 <mburns> #topic workshops and conferences
15:28:20 <mburns> lh: theron:  any updates?
15:28:34 <theron> yes.
15:28:50 <theron> we're moving forward with the oVirt workshop in Shanghai.
15:29:19 <theron> we're working though logistics directly with Intel, and we've published the CFP to the oVirt website, as well as the mailing lists.
15:29:26 <theron> (hopefully you've seen it)
15:29:40 <theron> http://www.ovirt.org/Intel_Workshop_May_2013
15:29:41 <dneary> mburns, Email sent
15:29:53 <dneary> mburns, Can I suggest something for 3.3?
15:29:56 <mburns> #info moving forward with the oVirt workshop in Shangha
15:30:06 <mburns> #info orking though logistics directly with Intel, and we've published the CFP to the oVirt website, as well as the mailing lists
15:30:14 <mburns> #link http://www.ovirt.org/Intel_Workshop_May_2013
15:30:18 * dneary keeps quiet since the agenda's moved on, will wait for AOB
15:30:26 <mburns> dneary: you can suggest anything you like ;-)
15:30:57 <theron> we're actively looking for speakers now, if anyone can think of different avenues, feel free to let me know.
15:31:12 <mburns> #info we're actively looking for speakers now, if anyone can think of different avenues, feel free to let theron  know
15:31:47 <theron> Attendees here thinking about attending should get visas in order ASAP
15:31:51 <dneary> Who are our big oVirt users & supporters in China?
15:32:12 <theron> we're early in planning, but we are prepping for 3 tracks.
15:32:15 <dneary> I'm aware of IBM, Intel, Symantec maybe
15:32:46 <theron> focus on dev, user, and integration tracks.. thinking space for showcasing oVirt integration with Gluster.
15:32:49 <mburns> #info Attendees here thinking about attending should get visas in order ASAP
15:32:58 <mburns> #info early in planning, but we are prepping for 3 tracks.
15:33:12 <mburns> #idea focus on dev, user, and integration tracks.. thinking space for showcasing oVirt integration with Gluster
15:33:20 <theron> itamar and the intel GM have been asked to do keynotes, more info to follow on this.
15:33:54 <mburns> #info itamar and the intel GM have been asked to do keynotes, more info to follow on this
15:34:28 <theron> The oVirt marketing group (once finalized who's in it) will be reaching out to OVA to help with promotions
15:34:53 <theron> lodging and additional logistics are being worked, expect updates on the oVirt website as they materialize.
15:35:21 <theron> If there are no open questions, i can address dave's question.
15:35:49 <mburns> #info The oVirt marketing group (once finalized who's in it) will be reaching out to OVA to help with promotions
15:35:58 <mburns> #info lodging and additional logistics are being worked, expect updates on the oVirt website as they materialize
15:36:23 <mburns> theron: please do address dneary 's question
15:36:38 <theron> dneary, I think that's a great question.  I'm aware of the same.  Any ideas on outreach to these and other groups?
15:36:51 <theron> dneary, other than intel's offer to reach out locally of course.
15:38:12 <theron> at it stands now, for this reason, we're making sure to engage with Intel folks on the ground to assist with reaching out to potential attendees, as well as existing users.
15:38:14 <dneary> theron, I would also love to know if we have contact with a Shanghai LUG
15:38:57 <dneary> theron, My suggestions involve leg-work - looking for Chinese names on the mailing list archives and sending them a message, for example
15:38:59 <theron> dneary, unclear.  If you've got a lead or direction to point me in, I can run with it.
15:39:29 <dneary> theron, I do know the former president of the Beijing LUG, very well connected in China - we should ask him
15:39:47 <theron> dneary, would be interesting to get the data dump for china from the report done earlier this year.
15:41:01 <mburns> ok, anything else new?
15:41:16 * mburns assumes dneary and theron can work that angle off-line...
15:41:32 <theron> that covers it for now.
15:41:41 * theron agrees and will follow up with dneary offline
15:42:10 <mburns> ok, any other conferences people are speaking at (other than the ones covered in recent weeks)?
15:43:12 <mburns> ok, moving on to sub-project reports
15:43:37 * mburns skips vdsm/engine/node since they're mostly covered above, but feel free to chime in if you have something important
15:43:44 <mburns> #topic Sub-Project Report -- infra
15:43:52 <mburns> ewoud: quaid:  updates?
15:43:59 * mburns knows there are this week...
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15:45:02 <YamaKasY> guys, just something I see in 3.2 and I want to check if it's a bug... a disk is illegal and I cannot remove it in any way..
15:45:40 <mburns> YamaKasY: sounds like a bug to me
15:45:50 <YamaKasY> mburns: okay :)
15:45:51 <mburns> #info jenkins has migrated to a new host at AlterWay
15:45:53 <YamaKasY> will report it
15:46:21 <mburns> #info things appear stable with the new jenkins master
15:47:14 * mburns doesn't know what else is happening with infra...
15:47:26 <YamaKasY> mburns: wouldn't it be that when as disk is illegal or not on storage anymore it will be removed anyway when you delete that disk from the system ?
15:47:45 <mburns> YamaKasY: not an area that i know very well...
15:47:55 <mburns> ok, so moving on to other topics
15:47:58 <mburns> #topic Other Topics
15:48:00 <YamaKasY> mburns: ok!
15:48:05 <mburns> anyone have other stuff to bring up?
15:50:03 <mburns> going once...
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15:51:28 <mburns> going twice..
15:52:25 <mburns> gone.
15:52:27 <mburns> thanks all
15:52:30 <mburns> #endmeeting