16:38:00 #startmeeting ovirt weekly (re-run) 16:38:00 Meeting started Wed Jan 29 16:38:00 2014 UTC. The chair is mburns. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:38:00 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:38:17 #topic Agenda and roll Call 16:38:18 #info infra update 16:38:18 #info 3.3 update releases 16:38:18 #info 3.4 progress 16:38:18 #info conferences and workshops 16:38:18 #info other topics 16:38:20 mburns++ 16:38:24 * bkp here 16:38:26 hi guys, 16:38:28 * sbonazzo here 16:38:30 * gtemple ppc_team here 16:38:32 sorry for the delay. 16:38:34 let's start quickly with infra updates 16:38:36 no problem 16:38:38 #topic infra update 16:38:40 orc_orc: here? 16:38:42 * lvernia is here. 16:38:44 dcaro: any infra updates? 16:38:46 dcaro: orc_orc last chance? 16:38:48 moving on. 16:38:50 we are still trying to normalize the jenkins jobs, and we've disabled some per-patch jobs to decrease the load 16:38:55 but it's more stable now 16:38:57 dcaro: thanks. Anything critical? 16:38:59 just keep sending issues you see to infra :) 16:39:01 #info some per-patch jobs disabled to decrease the load. currently Jenkins stabilized. 16:39:03 dcaro: thanks 16:39:05 #topic 3.3 releases update 16:40:18 sbonazzo: evening 16:40:18 doron: good evening 16:40:18 how are we doing with 3.3.x? 16:40:18 3.3.3 postponed since it can't be installed on FEdora and CentOS due to the same dependency resolution error we had in 3.3.2 last week 16:40:18 it hopefully be fixed today 16:40:20 sbonazzo: and what's the eta? 16:40:22 ie- for release 16:40:26 jhernand: just tested a new python-cpopen package 16:40:28 sbonazzo: I have a real headache with yum regarding this 16:40:30 python-cpopen is a "downstream" package, we'll need it in fedora and epel repositories 16:40:32 can someone help me with /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py ? 16:40:34 danken: try pinging the current yum maintainer 16:40:36 sbonazzo: looks like python-cpopen is doing a lot of noise for anyone trying out ovirt 16:40:38 ie- most of them fail. 16:40:40 doron: it's due to package renaming 16:40:42 sbonazzo: what's the latest stable we currently have? 16:40:44 the funny thing is if someone just `yum install python-cpopen` 16:40:46 before doing anything else, he'd be fine. 16:40:48 doron: well... we don't have stable installable without workarounds right now 16:40:50 sbonazzo: I suggest that we put some warning on the ovirt main page so folks will be aware of it 16:40:52 even if it means taking danken's ugly workaround 16:40:56 we should expect traffic startingthis weekend due to fosdem 16:40:58 doron: we should ask bkp or someone else with proper rights 16:41:00 bkp: can you handle it? 16:41:02 sbonazzo: and we should push forward for a stable release asap. 16:41:04 doron: if we accept the workaround of telling people toinstall python cpopen I'm fine with releasing 3.3.3 right now 16:41:07 doron: Add the yum note about python? 16:41:09 doron: but we'll miss node 16:41:11 bkp: let's start with a warning on the ovirt page. 16:41:13 doron: since it can't be composed with current repo status. maybe fabiand can confirm 16:41:15 doron: Yes. Add to install page? 16:41:17 sbonazzo: will this apply for 3.3.2 as well? 16:41:19 doron: yes 16:41:21 bkp: home page. some folks are following wikis and not our doc's. 16:41:25 doron: Acknowledged. 16:41:27 sbonazzo: then we should be good with this for 3.3.2, and push for stable 3.3.3 asap. 16:41:29 bkp: thanks 16:41:31 sbonazzo: ok? 16:41:33 doron: if we decide to release it as-is 3.3.3 repo is already on resource.ovirt.org 16:41:35 doron: just need to announce and release a new ovirt-release package 16:41:37 sbonazzo: if we have a better solution in a reasonable amount of time I prfer to wait to get node as well. 16:41:40 then we'll remove the warning and announce 3.3.3. 16:41:42 danken: any news about python-cpopen release-2 ? 16:41:44 doron ok for me 16:41:46 sbonazzo: thanks. 16:41:48 #action bkp to add a warning about python-cpopen, so users will not fail installing 3.3.2. 16:41:50 sbonazzo: ybronhei tried your suggestions, but no improvement 16:41:52 #action sbonazzo to push forward on stable 3.3.3 with python-cpopen fix. 16:41:56 let's move to 3.4. 16:41:58 sbonazzo: so now I'm down into debugging yum itslef 16:42:00 danken: great 16:42:02 #topic 3.4 progress 16:42:04 too bad yum's seth is no longer among us :-( 16:42:06 sbonazzo: blockers? 16:42:08 doron: we have a few of them for 3.4 16:42:10 danken: right. he ws an awesome guy. 16:42:12 sbonazzo: do we have a tracker /query? 16:42:14 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1024889 16:42:16 traker ^^ 16:42:18 #info 3.4 tracker https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1024889' 16:42:20 doron: we were thinkning about a beta2 refresh on Feb 6 16:42:22 doron and a second test day on feb 11 16:42:26 doron and possibly postponing rc / ga having a third test day before 16:42:28 wait, we have 2 blockers on ne 16:42:30 (new) 16:42:32 lvernia: both of them are network, can you please update us on their status? 16:42:34 lvernia: 906359 and 1057163 16:42:36 doron: Just a sec. 16:42:38 lvernia: ok. please check and we'll get back to you 16:42:40 doron: Ack. 16:42:42 sbonazzo: we have 2 on POST for integration. 16:42:44 will it be merged anytime soon? 16:42:46 sbonazzo: 1054080 and 1058018 16:42:48 doron: I'm good to talk about them whenever you are, familiar with both. 16:42:50 lvernia: sure. in a few minutes. 16:42:52 Ack. 16:42:56 doron one of them has patches not been well accepted so it may take some time. the other should go in before feb 6 16:42:59 sbonazzo: thanks. eta for the unaccepted one? 16:43:01 ie- will it block 3.4 release? 16:43:03 doron: I don't think so, I hope it will be ready before third test day 16:43:05 sbonazzo: very well. let's make sure it happens. 16:43:07 lvernia: blocker updates? 16:43:09 Yeah. 16:43:11 906359 should be an easy fix, we just need to decide what we wanna do with it. 16:43:13 So probably will discuss tomorrow and get it fixed. 16:43:15 doron: we're still missing API for "template versions" feature, by next week it should be in 16:43:17 mskrivanek: is it related to the blocker bz? 16:43:19 Not sure it actually should be a blocker, we'll see tomorrow. 16:43:21 lvernia: very well, please update as needed. 16:43:25 The other one I haven't reproduced yet, but potentially it's a tough one, again I'll have more info tomorrow. 16:43:28 doron: Sure, will update on mailing list as response to minutes? 16:43:30 doron: well I wonder if we agreed if the features on tracking sheet are inherently blockers as well or not? 16:43:33 #info blocker updates: 2 integration BZs in POST being tracked. 2 network BZs in NEW being tracked. 16:43:35 lvernia: thanks and the tracker bz. 16:43:37 doron, ack for beta refresh on 6th and second test day on 11th? 16:43:39 doron: Ack. 16:43:41 mskrivanek: not by definition. 16:43:43 mskrivanek: ie- we can decide it did not make it on time. 16:43:45 mskrivanek: abaron has a feww of those. 16:43:47 sbonazzo: any risks with these dates? 16:43:49 mskrivanek: just note that it means the feature is excluded from 3.4, 16:43:51 (and can still go into 3.5 of course) 16:43:55 doron: right. well virt should finish all on the spreadsheet, just that one is still in progress, but we do not want to exclude it. Next week should be fine... 16:43:58 doron: it will help having a better qa before rc release, hopefully bug identified during first test day will be fixed (some of them at least) 16:44:01 sbonazzo: very well then. Can you update the release page? 16:44:03 doron: ok. what about postponing a bit the rc / ga ? keeping current dates and decide later? 16:44:05 #info 3.4 beta refresh on 6th and second test day on 11th 16:44:07 sbonazzo: we should keep current dates and re-visit in 2 weeks. 16:44:09 doron: ok 16:44:11 ok, let's do a turbo fast round of updates for the various groups. 16:44:13 sahina: here for gluster? 16:44:15 doron, hi 16:44:17 hi sahina, anything important for 3.4? ie- blockers, etc. 16:44:19 doron, during test day we found an issue with async task feature - a vdsm patch needs to be backported to 3.4 branch 16:44:22 doron, there's a bug logged..i can add it to tracker? 16:44:26 sahina: is this a blocker? if so, we should add it to our tracker. 16:44:28 You have been unsubscribed from the Users mailing list 16:44:30 which tard did this ?? :P 16:44:32 sahina: please do. 16:44:34 doron, k 16:44:36 jvandewege: I blame you haha! 16:44:38 sahina: eta for it? 16:44:40 doron, i think the patch's been submitted already..needs to be merged. so should be done by next week 16:44:43 sahina: excellent, thanks. 16:44:45 doron: the eta always comes when you don't expect it... than it's too late 16:44:47 #info gluster 3,4 updates: one issue found, patch exists and should be handled in time. 16:44:49 moving next to infra. ybronhei here? 16:44:51 doron, /me is here 16:44:55 The below improvements are in progress for infra: 16:44:57 - snmp & snmp trap 16:44:59 - allow to provide a password change url on login failure when passowrd expires 16:45:01 - [RFE] [RHEVM-CLI] add remove "warning/confirmation" dialogue 16:45:03 hi dougsland. 16:45:05 dougsland: I have a session which should include snmp next week. will it make it to 3.4? 16:45:07 doron, the info that I have it's in progress. 16:45:09 dougsland: and what about the others?w ill it make it on time for 3.4? 16:45:11 doron, all in progress. 16:45:13 dougsland: thanks. 16:45:15 #info infra 3.4 updates: 3 features still in progress. 16:45:17 moving next to integration. sbonazzo? 16:45:19 a new patch for rewriting report setup has been pushed 16:45:21 and is now under review 16:45:25 hosted-engine has seen some issues mostly due to vdsmd not starting during test day 16:45:27 sbonazzo: thanks, what about appliance? 16:45:29 I hope they'll be fixed or are already fixed 16:45:31 doron: no news on that front 16:45:33 sbonazzo: thanks. 16:45:35 I've tested today ovirt-live 16:45:37 Hi all 16:45:39 from nightly and seen some issue due to engine starting in more than 1 minute 16:45:41 #info integration 3.4 updates: report setup and hosted engine being handled. no news for virt appliance. 16:45:43 sbonazzo: please let me know later if this is a real issue... 16:45:45 thanks 16:45:47 I have a problem, I have launch engine-setup for install my manager but I have error 16:45:49 [ INFO ] Creating PostgreSQL database 16:45:51 [ ERROR ] Failed to execute stage 'Misc configuration': Command '/bin/systemctl' failed to execute 16:45:56 moving next to netowrk. lvernia? 16:45:58 help me please 16:46:00 doron: sure 16:46:02 doron: Yes, other than blockers? 16:46:04 lvernia: yes. any important updates. 16:46:06 (if any) 16:46:08 doron: Nothing that I'm aware of, bugs being fixed, that's it. 16:46:10 lvernia: fare enough, thanks. 16:46:12 doron: Oh, sorry. 16:46:14 doron: One issue :p 16:46:16 doron: Big one actually. 16:46:18 * mperina (~mperina@nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com) has left #ovirt (QUIT :Leaving.) 16:46:20 lvernia: ? 16:46:22 straff_, let's discuss in private since we are in meeting for now but I am pretty sure might can be resolved by http://www.ovirt.org/Troubleshooting 16:46:27 doron: Host Network QoS malfunctioning pretty badly because of stuff that wasn't implemented in libvirt. 16:46:30 doron: Or implemented but not in a way that's convenient for us. 16:46:32 lvernia: and IIRC there's a libvirt bz on it? 16:46:34 doron: A couple. And we're also considering not depending on libvirt for this, but rather let VDSM do the job itself using tc. 16:46:37 doron: A couple = two, not a couple of in the general sense. 16:46:39 lvernia: we may want an ovirt bz depending on these 16:46:41 which should be a blocker unless you decide we disable it in 3.4. 16:46:43 doron: Yes, you are correct. 16:46:45 lvernia: very well, so please handle it and add it to the tracker bz. thanks 16:46:47 doron: Will do, thanks. 16:46:49 will wait for your updates. 16:46:51 doron: Very well, I'm done. 16:46:55 #info network 3.4 updates: Issue found with libvirt implementation regarding host network QoS. currently being tracked. 16:46:58 lvernia: thanks. 16:47:00 moving next to ppc. 16:47:02 lbianc: hi 16:47:04 vitorlima: hi 16:47:06 hi doron 16:47:08 * gtemple hi 16:47:10 hi doron 16:47:12 gtemple: hey. ppc updates/ 16:47:14 ? 16:47:16 So far, there were two problems during the test day: one related to the libguestfs and another one related to the fake QEMU mode 16:47:19 libguestfs is missing since Fedora 18, If I'm not mistaken 16:47:21 in the ppc64 arch 16:47:25 vitorlima: fakeqemu sounds less of a blocker. 16:47:27 what about libguestfs? is it not packaged for f19/20? 16:47:29 sure, it is just something to help people test the ppc64 support without having a ppc64 machine 16:47:32 vitorlima, lbianc I see the update in the bz today, I can help on libguest building as well. 16:47:34 doron, vdsm requires one of sub-packages of libguest but it's not building for ppc platform. 16:47:36 tks dougsland, but seems someone have fixed for F20 16:47:38 vitorlima: and a regression which needs to get fixed asap, http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/23859/ 16:47:41 dougsland: gustavold in the #fedora-ppc channel on freenode is helping us too 16:47:43 dougsland: please take this offline with vitorlima and update us next time, ok? 16:47:45 doron, yes. 16:47:47 vitorlima: please review your issues and let us know what may be a 34 blocker. ok? 16:47:49 dougsland: thanks. 16:47:51 ok, there are pending patches that block migration and memory snapshots, I don't know if they are considered blockers 16:47:56 mskrivanek: the regression should be merged asap. 16:47:58 vitorlima: what happens if it slips 3.4? 16:48:00 will we not have ppc at all? can it be fixed as a bug? 16:48:02 the user will try to migrate VMs or take memory snapshots, and it will fail, since QEMU does not support it 16:48:05 The rest of the functionality is ok 16:48:07 vitorlima: are these qemu patches or ovirt ones? 16:48:09 oVirt ones, since these features in QEMU are incomplete we have to block them in the engine 16:48:11 vitorlima: very well, then I suggest we make sure it goes in until RC. 16:48:13 doron: ok, we just need more code reviews 16:48:15 vitorlima: understood. 16:48:17 mskrivanek: can you try and help on these patches? 16:48:19 * dcaro is now known as dcaro|away 16:48:21 vitorlima: please mail devel with the patches awaiting reviews. 16:48:25 we'll do our best to push it. 16:48:27 thanks, doron 16:48:29 doron: well, we always do:) 16:48:31 #info ppc 3.4 updates: a few patches require reviews, as well as libguestfs currently being checked for Fedore 19/20. 16:48:34 thanks vitorlima mskrivanek. 16:48:36 moving next to sla 16:48:38 #info SLA 3.4 updates: hosted engine fix still needs vdsm attention. Currently in progress. No other updates. 16:48:41 moving next to storage. who's here for storage? 16:48:43 hi 16:48:45 abaron: hi. 3.4 updates? 16:48:47 2 features missed 3.4 and will be postponed for 3.5 (get rid of pool md, ovf on any domain) 16:48:49 the rest is in 16:48:51 no major issues 16:48:55 abaron: any blockers? 16:48:57 none left that I"m aware of 16:48:59 very well, thanks 16:49:01 #info storage 3.4 updates: 2 features pushed forward to 3.5 (get rid of pool md, ovf on any domain). No other updates. 16:49:04 moving to UX. ecohen? 16:49:06 doron, hi - no updates for ux. 16:49:08 ecohen: no blockers? 16:49:10 doron, not that I'm aware of. 16:49:12 firefox issues? etc? 16:49:14 doron, anything in particular with FF that you are aware of? 16:49:16 ecohen: not currently, just making sure. 16:49:18 doron, ok. so no blockers that I am aware of ATM. 16:49:20 #info ux 3.4 updates: none. No known blockers. 16:49:22 thanks ecohen 16:49:26 moving next to virt 16:49:28 mskrivanek: ? 16:49:30 we're good. mising REST API of tempalte versions, otherwise all is in 16:49:32 mskrivanek: blockers? 16:49:34 some aditional patches for vminit feature...not critical 16:49:36 nothing that can't wait for 3.4.1 IMHO 16:49:38 mskrivanek: thanks. 16:49:40 #info virt 3.4 updates: mising REST API of tempalte versions. No known blockers. 16:49:42 anything else on 3.4? 16:49:44 if not lets move on 16:49:46 #topic conferences and workshops 16:49:48 bkp: updates? 16:49:50 Sure. First, the warning has been added to the oVirt home page about python-cpopen. 16:49:52 On the road with dneary. In London now at London Cloud Summit. FOSDEM prep set. Infrastructure.Next set. Looking forward to seeing everyone this weekend. 16:49:57 bkp: much appreciated. 16:49:59 New Korean oVirt/RHEV event coming up after Infrastructure.Next. On oVirt events calendar. 16:50:01 doron: NP 16:50:03 That's all I have unless there are questions. 16:50:05 * wdeheiden (~wdh@81.30.38.129) has left #ovirt 16:50:07 #info London Cloud Summit currently running. FOSDEM, cfgmgmtcmp and infra.next prepared. 16:50:09 #info expecting an oVirt event in Korea soon. 16:50:11 bkp: thanks 16:50:13 moving next 16:50:15 #topic other topics 16:50:17 #topic other topics 23:21:07 #endmeeting