15:03:23 <bkp> #startmeeting oVirt Weekly Sync
15:03:23 <ovirtbot> Meeting started Wed Jan  7 15:03:23 2015 UTC.  The chair is bkp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:03:35 <bkp> #topic Agenda and Roll Call
15:03:35 <bkp> #info infra update
15:03:35 <bkp> #info 3.5.z updates
15:03:35 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status
15:03:35 <bkp> #info conferences and workshops
15:03:38 <bkp> #info other topics
15:03:46 * lvernia is here.
15:03:49 * amureini is here
15:04:00 <bkp> Hello, lvernia and amureini
15:04:05 <lvernia> Hello hello!
15:04:28 <amureini> and i thought it was cold over here in israel...
15:04:37 <bkp> Sorry awels, for being tardy! You here, too?
15:04:37 * sbonazzo here for integration
15:04:56 * awels depends on your definition of being here :)
15:05:02 <bkp> amureini: You think you know cold? Heh!
15:05:12 <bkp> awels: Copy that.
15:05:18 <bkp> Hello, sbonazzo!
15:05:31 <bkp> Let's get rolling...
15:05:39 <bkp> #topic infra update
15:05:54 <bkp> Who wants to speak for infra today?
15:06:33 <georgeh_> Telsin, thanks for the link, that helped
15:06:39 <sbonazzo> eedri? orc_orc?
15:06:41 <bkp> dcaro? eedri?
15:07:00 <eedri> bkp, dcaro is on pto
15:07:11 <bkp> eedri: Noted, thanks.
15:07:17 <eedri> bkp, not too much updates from infra, as mostly it was quiet during the shutdown
15:07:38 <eedri> bkp, i can say though the ilo issue was fixed on the phx lab, and we're waiting now for dcaro to return to start phase II
15:07:51 <bkp> eedri: Noted. misc gave a similar report for our group: "Nothing broke"
15:08:03 <eedri> bkp, which includes assining more ips to the lab, migrating linode services, etc..
15:08:22 <eedri> bkp, next week we'll get back into the action
15:09:36 <bkp> Excellent, eedri. Anything else?
15:09:54 <eedri> bkp, new unstable view was added to show productions jobs
15:10:12 <eedri> bkp, to better focus on fixing critical jobs 1st, and leave jobs that are WIP for another view
15:11:03 <bkp> Noted
15:12:30 <bkp> eedri: Does that complete the infra report?
15:13:45 <bkp> #info infra update The ILO issue was fixed on the PHX lab, and we're waiting now for dcaro to return to start phase II
15:13:48 <bkp> #info infra update Phase II includes assining more IPs to the lab, migrating linode services, etc. Expected start: newxt week.
15:13:51 <bkp> #info infra update A new unstable view was added to show productions jobs to better focus on fixing critical jobs first, and leave jobs that are work-in-progress for another view
15:14:03 <bkp> I'm going to assume that's it for infra.
15:14:26 <bkp> Next topic...
15:14:29 <bkp> #topic 3.5.z updates
15:14:43 <bkp> sbonazzo: What's the word?
15:14:47 <sbonazzo> bkp no good news on 3.5 today
15:15:05 <sbonazzo> bkp sent the status this morning, we've to postpone RC again due to blockers
15:15:17 <bkp> Blockers, plural?
15:15:24 <sbonazzo> bkp sadly yes...
15:15:33 <sbonazzo> bkp we have the one we left before christmas
15:15:41 <bkp> I just saw one in your status.
15:15:44 <sbonazzo> bkp and a shiny new caused by epel 6 dropping novnc package
15:16:04 <sbonazzo> bkp causing dependency breackage on EL6
15:16:12 <bkp> What's the bug number on the new one?
15:16:40 <sbonazzo> bkp [Bug 1177290] ovirt-engine not installable on CentOS 6: broken dependency novnc
15:17:21 <sbonazzo> sent an email about how to handle novnc in 3.5.z / 3.6 here: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/devel/2015-January/009604.html
15:17:29 <danken2> ybronhei: could you update regarding the el6 build of vdsm for ovirt-3.5.1?
15:17:59 <sbonazzo> bkp ref to this morning status:  http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2015-January/030420.html
15:18:39 <danken> sbonazzo, anybody: can you help with https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/5530/8495530/mock_output.log ?
15:18:50 <bkp> Okay, 1177290 is assigned to you, sbonazzo. Do you have an ETA?
15:18:50 <danken> it is another blocker for 3.5.1
15:19:39 <bkp> danken: What's that bug number, please?
15:20:23 <sbonazzo> bkp not sure about current status, need to check with eedri didi and tiraboschi_ on what has already been done. But I think we can workaround it for end of week
15:20:31 <ybronhei> danken: i don't have anything to update. i was on other things urgent for 3.5
15:20:47 <sbonazzo> bkp we'll need to plan properly for future about noVNC feature since its' getting unmaintained
15:20:47 <ybronhei> danken: i asked jboggs by mail if he might konw about it
15:21:03 <sbonazzo> danken: please add the bug to the tracker
15:21:11 <danken> ybronhei: could you re-trigger that job? maybe the qemu-kvm dependecy solved itself?
15:21:15 <sbonazzo> danken: looks like a dependency broken in qemu-img
15:21:44 <bkp> gchaplik: Any ETA on 1160846?
15:21:57 <didi> sbonazzo: bkp: We already have a "workaround" mentioned in the bug - we took downstream rhel sources and built on upstream jenkins, eedri signed them and they are available in the 3.5 repo. So not sure it's a blocker for 3.5.1, although we do need a longer-term solution
15:22:38 <gchaplik> bkp, Monday hopefully.
15:22:39 <amureini> didi wasn't that just for EL (centos), not defora?
15:22:55 <amureini> sbonazzo, danken ^^^
15:23:15 <didi> amureini: indeed, but there is no principle problem doing that for others. I wasn't aware of a problem in fedora - isn't it shipped there already?
15:23:32 <sbonazzo> amureini: it's for epel6 but looking at koji, novnc is not actively maintained in el7 or fedora too
15:23:54 <danken> amureini: are you refering to Bug 1160846 -        Can't add disk to VM without specifying disk profile when the storage domain has more than one disk profile
15:24:00 <amureini> sbonazzo, i was referering to danken's issue with qemu-img
15:24:06 <amureini> sbonazzo, (not nonvnc)
15:24:25 <danken> amureini: that's el6 specific.
15:24:30 <amureini> danken, no, the koji output you were curious about
15:25:12 <sbonazzo> bkp: didi: dropping from blockers then
15:25:30 <sbonazzo> bkp didi will re-target to 3.6 for proper handling
15:26:04 <didi> sbonazzo: we also want probably to put it (same rpm?) in master-snapshot-static (and 3.5-snapshot-static)
15:26:18 <didi> for el6
15:27:53 <sbonazzo> didi: +1
15:28:07 <bkp> Okay, we have the statuses for the two (known) blockers, and then there's the blocker danken just raised, which I assume is not in Bugzilla yet, correct?
15:28:53 <sbonazzo> bkp I think so
15:29:59 <ybronhei> danken: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=8547445
15:30:01 <bkp> Okay, I guess keep us posted on the untracked bug. gchaplik reported a possible Monday fix, sbonazzo, if you want to try to reschedule 3.5.1 RC from that.
15:30:39 <sbonazzo> bkp ok, let's tentatively schedule the build on next wed
15:30:47 <danken> bkp: it's not really an ovirt bug
15:31:11 <bkp> danken: Okay, that wasn't clear.
15:31:18 <sbonazzo> danken: well, not having vdsm on 3.5.1 may be considered an ovirt bug :-)
15:31:21 <danken> sbonazzo: I'd love to get your help with a jenkins job to build vdsm out of koji
15:31:38 <danken> sbonazzo: bkp: heh. but it's a koji/qemu-img bug
15:31:39 <sbonazzo> danken: I'll try to help you with that
15:31:53 <ybronhei> danken: https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/7450/8547450/root.log same error..
15:32:06 <danken> sbonazzo: thanks. if you get ybronhei do it, we can provide the needed el6 build
15:32:36 <sbonazzo> danken: ok, thanks
15:32:43 <danken> ybronhei: try pinging crobinso@redhat.com of qemu - he can help, too.
15:32:47 <bkp> Okay, anyone else got anything for 3.5.1?
15:34:35 <bkp> #info 3.5.z updates 3.5.1 RC is postponed due to two known blockers: 1160846 (which SLA is still working on) and 1177290 (ovirt-engine not installable on CentOS 6: broken dependency novnc)
15:34:39 <bkp> #info 3.5.z updates Status of 1177290 fix: Not sure of status, but may be able to have a workaround by the end of this week, according to sbonazzo
15:34:42 <bkp> #info 3.5.z updates According to didi, there is already a "workaround" mentioned in the 1177290 - we took downstream rhel sources and built on upstream jenkins, eedri signed them and they are available in the 3.5 repo. So not sure it's a blocker for 3.5.1, although we do need a longer-term solution
15:34:47 <bkp> #info 3.5.z updates 1177290 dropped as a blocker, retargeted to 3.6 for proper handling
15:34:50 <bkp> #info 3.5.z updates Status of 1160846 fix: Hopefully Monday, according to gchaplik
15:34:53 <bkp> #info 3.5.z updates danken reported another potential blocker with vdsm. No bug assigned/tracked yet. sbonazzo asked to assist.
15:34:56 <bkp> #info 3.5.z updates There are still 57 bugs targeted to 3.5.1. Excluding node and documentation bugs we still have 37 bugs targeted to 3.5.1
15:34:59 <bkp> #info 3.5.z updates 3.5.1 RC tentatively scheduled for Jan. 14, 2015.
15:35:02 <bkp> Let's move on to 3.6...
15:35:07 <bkp> #topic 3.6 status
15:35:24 <bkp> sbonazzo: Status?
15:35:28 <sbonazzo> bkp no great news on 3.6, other than we need to think about what to do with novnc there
15:36:13 <sbonazzo> looks like jenkins build for 3.6 is currently failing
15:36:31 <sbonazzo> once it will be back to normal, it should be able to run on f21 too
15:36:56 <sbonazzo> thanks to emesika's patch
15:37:40 <bkp> Noted. Anything else beyond this morning's status email?
15:38:48 <sbonazzo> bkp that's all on my side, anything else is in the same status we had before xmas
15:38:55 <lvernia> bkp: sbonazzo: I can update on some 3.6 progress.
15:39:08 <bkp> Okay, does anyone have issues/concerns around 3.6?
15:39:21 <bkp> lvernia: Go ahead.
15:39:33 <lvernia> Host Network QoS is all merged.
15:39:43 <lvernia> It's a debt from 3.4 that provides great functionality.
15:39:50 <lvernia> If anybody's courageous enough to work from master... :)
15:40:19 <lvernia> And since emesika's patch to introduce 3.6 clusters into oVirt was merged today, now this feature (and any other that's already merged) will be available for users to use.
15:40:51 <lvernia> We're also making decent progress on a bunch of other features, updating on the spreadsheet. More should be merged in the coming weeks.
15:42:06 <bkp> lvernia: Excellent. Anyone else got 3.6 news?
15:43:01 <awels> bkp: Define news, we are making progress, some stuff done, some stuff not done.
15:43:31 <bkp> awels: I would say anything significant (good or bad)?
15:44:05 <awels> bkp: In that case not really, some minor features done, the major ones in progress.
15:44:16 <bkp> awels, Noted
15:45:02 <awels> bkp: Actually scratch that, I have on feature a lot of people apparently wanted returned since 3.0. When switching main tabs the search now remembers the query you entered.
15:45:29 <awels> bkp: That is done already, so if you are brave enough for 3.6. Give it a whirl.
15:45:31 <bkp> All: Don't forget to add features to the 3.6 feature spreadsheet!
15:45:49 <awels> bkp: Its green in the spreadsheet already
15:47:10 <bkp> Cool!
15:47:28 <bkp> #action 3.6.0 status Feature proposed for 3.6.0 must now be collected in the 3.6 Google doc (http://goo.gl/9X3G49) and reviewed by maintainers
15:47:31 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status Finished the review process, the remaining key milestones for this release will be scheduled.
15:47:34 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status Will now need to think about what to do with novnc in this release.
15:47:37 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status Jenkins build for 3.6 currently failing, but once back to nomral, 3.6 should be able to run on F21 (thanks emesika)
15:47:40 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status There are 466 bugs targeted to 3.6.0. Excluding node and documentation bugs we have 440 bugs targeted to 3.6.0.
15:47:43 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status Host Network QoS is all merged, at long last.
15:47:45 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status emesika's patch to introduce 3.6 clusters into oVirt was merged today, now this feature (and any other that's already merged) will be available for users to use.
15:47:48 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status Networking is also making decent progress on a bunch of other features, updating on the spreadsheet. More should be merged in the coming weeks.
15:47:51 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status UX has completed a feature for 3.6 that a lot of people have apparently wanted returned since 3.0. When switching main tabs the search now remembers the query you entered.
15:47:55 <bkp> Okay, rolling along...
15:47:58 <bkp> #topic conferences and workshops
15:48:06 <bkp> It's mostly FOSDEM-centric news this week...
15:48:22 <bkp> #info conferences and workshops FOSDEM is fast approaching. If you plan to attend this event on Jan. 31-Feb. 1, stop by the oVirt booth as well as the Virt and IaaS devrooms to hear more about oVirt!
15:48:26 <bkp> #info conferences and workshops Stay tuned for more info on a FOSDEM social gathering for oVirt during the event, too!
15:48:29 <bkp> #info conferences and workshops We are currently planning a one-day oVirt Workshop to coincide with FOSSAsia in Singapore, Feb. 13-15. Asia-Pac, Australia, and West Asia users are invited to attend. Details and registration to follow soon!
15:48:33 <bkp> #info conferences and workshops jbrooks will be speaking on the new Smart VM Scheduler at SCALE 13X, as well as bkp, who will be discussing data centers vs. cloud VM management. A shared booth will be present as well.
15:48:37 <bkp> #info conferences and workshops bkp will be speaking at the Linux Collab Summit on VM and container management
15:48:54 <bkp> (And by social gathering, I mean beer)
15:49:15 <bkp> Does anyone have any other conference info to report?
15:50:04 <amureini> bkp - i will be giving a talk at DevConfCZ on Feb.
15:51:02 <bkp> This is good.
15:51:27 <bkp> #info conferences and workshops amureini will be giving a talk at DevConfCZ in Feb, after FOSDEM
15:51:44 <bkp> If that's it, last topic...
15:51:53 <bkp> #topic other topics
15:52:25 <bkp> #info other topics bkp has completed a case study on CloudSpin, and will be posting it today on ovirt.org.
15:52:36 <bkp> #info other topics One of the 2015 goals is updating oVirt documentation. To that end, we will compile a list of known use cases/tasks that users and admins do with oVirt in the real world. Once this task list is compiled, we can start building an action-oriented set of user documentation. bkp will be setting this up and sending out a notice soon.
15:52:50 <bkp> #info other topics The Dec. 2014 newsletter was just posted (which is why this meeting was late), and can be found at http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2015-January/030436.html
15:53:24 <bkp> That's all from me... any news or discussion from the group?
15:54:34 <bkp> Going once?
15:54:55 <bkp> Twice?
15:55:47 <bkp> Okay, we're done. You all stay warm out there, I'm going out to shovel the 20 cm of snow that's coming down. :P
15:55:53 <bkp> #endmeeting