15:01:14 <bkp> #startmeeting oVirt Weekly Sync
15:01:14 <ovirtbot> Meeting started Wed Jan 14 15:01:14 2015 UTC.  The chair is bkp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:01:25 <bkp> #topic Agenda and Roll Call
15:01:25 <bkp> #info infra update
15:01:25 <bkp> #info 3.5.z updates
15:01:25 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status
15:01:25 <bkp> #info conferences and workshops
15:01:27 <bkp> #info other topics
15:01:37 <bkp> Good day to all! Who's here?
15:01:58 <Zordrak> only us poor plebs with problems apparantly
15:01:59 * lvernia is here.
15:02:06 * sbonazzo here
15:02:37 <bkp> Zordrak: We are not so judgemental.
15:02:48 <bkp> Hey, lvernia and sbonazzo
15:02:54 <lvernia> Yo yo yo.
15:03:08 * bkp *Head thump*
15:03:49 <bkp> Let's get this going, then.
15:03:58 <bkp> #topic infra update
15:04:26 <sbonazzo> bkp dcaro is not around today. eedri bkorren ?
15:04:32 <bkp> Who's here for infra? eedri?
15:04:45 * eedri here
15:04:59 * amureini here, sorry for the tardiness
15:05:02 <eedri> not too much to update
15:05:12 <bkp> No worries, hello gents.
15:05:21 <eedri> bkp, we're nearing the point of being able to trigger new vms per job in jenkins on the phx lab
15:05:45 <eedri> bkp, not sure if you talked about it already, but the novnc issue will be solved by openstack
15:06:11 <bkp> eedri: No, that's good to hear.
15:06:18 <eedri> bkp, i'm going to do a lightning talk on the ovirt gerrit hooks system in fosdem, so everyone is welcome
15:06:30 <eedri> bkp, https://fosdem.org/2015/schedule/event/gerrit_hooks/
15:06:45 <eedri> bkp, also on using fabric for managing devops
15:07:28 <eedri> bkp, still waiting for ack from dev on support on f21, so we can enable jobs to build and tests on it
15:07:50 <eedri> bkp, progress made on ovirt-node building also, perhaps fabiand can elaborate
15:08:08 * fabiand lifts his head
15:08:14 <fabiand> Yes, good news from the Node side.
15:08:27 <fabiand> The Node team finally solved all problems related to EL6.6 support
15:08:31 <eedri> bkp, also, creating rpms on master is broken due to gwt changes, i think vszocs has a patch for fixing it, waiting for a merge
15:08:36 <fabiand> And we are also happy to announce EL7.0 support
15:08:54 <fabiand> A build is still pending, but we hope to deliver this soon. Please watch the ML for the announcement
15:09:13 <fabiand> Apart from that we are a bit behind planning 3.6, which should get more attention, now that we are closign down 3.5
15:09:20 <vszocs> eedri: you mean memory-related issue? http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/36739/
15:09:40 <eedri> vszocs, i believe so, we had a thread on it
15:09:47 <vszocs> eedri: ok, right
15:09:58 <vszocs> eedri: alonbl had some comments on that patch, I'll address them
15:10:16 <eedri> vszocs, ok, update please when we should expect a fix so we'll verify it
15:11:07 <eedri> bkp, also vsdm unit tests were broken, a fix is also pending soon
15:11:16 <eedri> bkp, that's it from my side
15:11:33 <sbonazzo> maybe still infra update
15:11:41 <bkp> Okay, just getting this down. fabiand, will add 3.6 note to that section.
15:11:43 <sbonazzo> yesterday attended to centos virt sig meeting
15:11:50 <sbonazzo> things are slowly progressing
15:11:59 <sbonazzo> we now have centos wiki write access
15:12:10 <sbonazzo> still pending access to CSB system
15:12:26 <vszocs> eedri, alonbl if we agree to configure env-specific JVM mem options via MAVEN_OPTS, we could merge..
15:12:58 * awels here
15:13:01 <sbonazzo> bkp: virt sig will be at fosdem too https://fosdem.org/2015/schedule/event/immutable/
15:13:17 <sbonazzo> just after doron session on numa https://fosdem.org/2015/schedule/event/numaovirt/
15:13:53 <bkp> Hey awels
15:14:13 <bkp> sbonazzo: Will add that in conferences section. Anything else from Virt SIG meeting?
15:14:35 <sbonazzo> sig meeting minutes: http://www.centos.org/minutes/2015/january/centos-devel.2015-01-13-14.06.html
15:14:53 <sbonazzo> bkp that should be all from virt sig
15:15:22 <bkp> Any other infra issues?
15:16:22 <bkp> Okay, then.
15:16:25 <bkp> #info infra update Nearing the point of being able to trigger new VMs per job in jenkins on the PHX lab
15:16:28 <bkp> #info infra update The novnc issue brought up last week will be solved by openstack
15:16:31 <bkp> #info infra update eedri will be a lightning talk on the ovirt gerrit hooks system and on using fabric for managing devops at fosdem https://fosdem.org/2015/schedule/event/gerrit_hooks/
15:16:35 <bkp> #info infra update Still waiting for ack from dev on support on Fedora 21, so we can enable jobs to build and tests on it
15:16:38 <bkp> #info infra update Progress on building ovirt-node: Node team finally solved all problems related to EL6.6 support.
15:16:41 <bkp> #info infra update Node is also pleased to announce EL7.0 support. A build is still pending, but we hope to deliver this soon. Please watch the ML for the announcement
15:16:44 <bkp> #info infra update Creating rpms on master is broken due to gwt changes, vszocs has a patch for fixing it, waiting for a merge
15:16:47 <bkp> #info infra update From CentOS Virt SIG meeting: We now have centos wiki write access, still pending access to CSB system
15:16:50 <bkp> #info infra update From CentOS Virt SIG meeting: SIG meeting minutes: http://www.centos.org/minutes/2015/january/centos-devel.2015-01-13-14.06.html
15:16:53 <bkp> Moving on...
15:16:55 <bkp> #topic 3.5.z updates
15:17:02 <bkp> sbonazzo: I see there is still that blocker?
15:17:19 <sbonazzo> bkp: well... no :-) gchaplik just fixed it so we're good to go
15:17:44 <alonbl> vszocs: I am not following
15:17:47 <sbonazzo> bkp: 3.5.1 branch created and announced just a couple of minutes ago: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/devel/2015-January/009660.html
15:18:01 <amureini> sbonazzo++
15:18:03 <sbonazzo> bkp build started in jenkins too: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/manual-build-tarball/456/
15:18:27 <bkp> Hurray, gchaplik !
15:18:30 <danken> sbonazzo: I'd like to spin a fresh vdsm for 3.5.1, too.
15:18:36 <sbonazzo> bkp if everything gfoes fine, tomorrow morning we'll compose 3.5.1 RC and test it for releasing in the afternoon
15:18:49 <danken> so if anyone needs something for 3.5.1, shout!
15:18:56 <gchaplik> bkp, :-P
15:19:01 <sbonazzo> danken: you're welcome. intention was to take last nightly build
15:19:09 <sbonazzo> danken: but a clean build is welcome
15:19:38 <danken> you can take the nightly if we miss the deadline.
15:19:45 <sbonazzo> danken: ok
15:20:17 <sbonazzo> I just hope everything will go fine in jenkins
15:20:26 <sbonazzo> so engine will be ready for tomorrow morning
15:21:05 <sbonazzo> other than that, 3.5.1 has still a long queue of bugs
15:21:26 <bkp> sbonazzo: Still 61 bugs?
15:21:26 <sbonazzo> listed in the status sent this morning: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2015-January/030579.html
15:21:31 <sbonazzo> bkp yep
15:21:49 <sbonazzo> will be retargeted to 3.5.2 after we can confirm 3.5.1-rc works
15:21:49 <amureini> sbonazzo, bkp do you have a BZ query ready for this, by any chance?
15:22:01 <sbonazzo> amureini: it's in the status email
15:22:09 <amureini> sbonazzo, thanks
15:23:14 <bkp> sbonazzo: Anything else?
15:23:38 <sbonazzo> bkp that should be all for 3.5. just a reminder to maintainers to update release notes if not done yet
15:23:56 <sbonazzo> http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.5.1_Release_Notes
15:24:36 <bkp> #info 3.5.z updates 3.5.1 branch created and announced just a couple of minutes ago: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/devel/2015-January/009660.html
15:24:39 <bkp> #info 3.5.z updates 3.5.1 build started in jenkins too: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/manual-build-tarball/456/
15:24:42 <bkp> #info 3.5.z updates If everything goes fine, on morning of Jan. 15, we'll compose 3.5.1 RC and test it for releasing in the afternoon.
15:24:45 <bkp> #info 3.5.z updates There are 61 bugs targeted to 3.5.1. Excluding node and documentation bugs we have 41 bugs targeted to 3.5.1.
15:24:48 <bkp> #info 3.5.z updates Full status here (though blocker bug info now moot): http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2015-January/030579.html
15:24:51 <bkp> #action 3.5.z updates Update release notes for 3.5.1 if you haven't done so yet! http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.5.1_Release_Notes
15:25:08 <bkp> #topic 3.6 status
15:25:34 <sbonazzo> bkp sent status this morning  http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2015-January/030580.html
15:25:36 <bkp> sbonazzo: Anything new from this morning's status?
15:25:42 <sbonazzo> bug count is increasing
15:25:56 <sbonazzo> meaning that someone starte playing with master
15:26:10 <sbonazzo> on integration features side
15:26:23 <sbonazzo> fedora 21 support is near to be completed on build side
15:26:46 <sbonazzo> just missing 2 patches here: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/36799/ and http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/36240/
15:26:54 <sbonazzo> then we can start testing it on fedora 21
15:27:01 <sbonazzo> and see what's missing
15:27:40 <sbonazzo> hosted engine glusterfs support (for existing glusterfs replica 3) is under review
15:27:56 <sbonazzo> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/36264
15:28:17 <sbonazzo> hosted engine with gluster provisioning is still in development
15:28:57 <sbonazzo> that should be all on integration / releng side
15:29:38 <bkp> Any other 3.6 updates? I have fabiand's node update.
15:30:24 <lvernia> I have a question for sbonazzo.
15:30:37 <sbonazzo> lvernia: sure
15:30:44 <lvernia> mburman has been trying to test the nightly build.
15:30:53 <lvernia> But it seems for some reason it doesn't include recent engine patches.
15:31:08 <lvernia> For example, the latest patch in the build from January 14th, was merged on January 4th.
15:31:33 <sbonazzo> lvernia: as eedri said, engine master jenkins jobs are failing to build engine
15:31:47 <lvernia> Ahhh, okay. So how come the rpm is updated? :p
15:32:01 <lvernia> The modification date changes.
15:32:34 <sbonazzo> lvernia: modification date changes because the nighlty publisher job takes latest available build and publish it blindly
15:32:45 <sbonazzo> lvernia: so it just rewrite the existing rpm
15:32:51 <lvernia> A-ha, cool.
15:33:03 <lvernia> I'm sorry, I didn't realize eedri's update was pertinent to this issue.
15:33:13 <sbonazzo> lvernia: no problem :-)
15:33:16 <lvernia> So what's the ETA again?
15:33:37 * lvernia is scrolling up...
15:33:54 <lvernia> bkp: One other thing in the meantime...
15:33:59 <sbonazzo> lvernia: it depends if infra team increase ram / swap in the slaves or if vszocs manage to have the patch merged soon :-)
15:33:59 <bkp> I don't think vszocs said.
15:34:11 <bkp> lvernia: Go ahead.
15:34:26 <lvernia> bkp: Concerning last week's update that 3.6 clusters can now be created, as long as the nightly builds aren't happening - it was premature.
15:34:37 <lvernia> bkp: So no testing on 3.6 features is possible at the moment.
15:34:40 <lvernia> bkp: And in addition...
15:34:43 <lvernia> bkp: Even if it were...
15:35:08 <lvernia> bkp: There's this issue of vdsm 4.17 not reporting that it supports 3.6 engine.
15:35:14 <lvernia> bkp: There's a thread about it on devel.
15:35:32 <amureini> lvernia, this was solves this morning, iirc
15:35:53 <lvernia> amureini: I doubt it, I don't see any agreement about how to do this.
15:36:16 <lvernia> amureini: danken has raised an argument why vdsm shouldn't report that it supports 3.6 yet.
15:36:31 <amureini> lvernia, http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/36863/ - no?
15:37:00 <lvernia> amureini: Hmmm, good to know. But I think that's only half the equation.
15:37:05 <amureini> lvernia, oh, no, sorry, that's the reverse issue. my bad.
15:37:18 <amureini> lvernia, this solves engine 3.6 supporting vdsm 4.17
15:37:38 <lvernia> amureini: Yes. I'm not actually sure what's the functionality of that?...
15:37:55 <lvernia> amureini: I think our main parameters to decide whether a host should be operational is what clusters it reports to support, isn't it?
15:38:08 <lvernia> amureini: Only if it's missing we fall back to this engine config?
15:38:13 <lvernia> amureini: I remember something of the sort.
15:38:15 <amureini> lvernia, it prevents a vdsm-4.17 host of going non-op as soon as it connects :-)
15:39:31 <bkp> lvernia amureini So report this as a still open issue?
15:40:09 <lvernia> bkp: As I understand it, yes...
15:40:24 <bkp> Noted. Any other 3.6 updates?
15:40:27 <amureini> bkp, agree with lvernia
15:41:32 <bkp> If nothing else...
15:41:45 <bkp> #action 3.6.0 status Feature proposed for 3.6.0 must now be collected in the 3.6 Google doc (http://goo.gl/9X3G49) and reviewed by maintainers
15:41:48 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status Finished the review process, the remaining key milestones for this release will be scheduled.  (bkp, 15:47:31)
15:41:51 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status There are 480 bugs targeted to 3.6.0. Excluding node and documentation bugs we have 454 bugs targeted to 3.6.0.
15:41:54 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status Bug count is increasing, as people are getting into the master and working on the integration features side.
15:41:57 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status Full status here: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2015-January/030580.html
15:42:00 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status Fedora 21 support is near to be completed on build side, just missing 2 patches here: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/36799/ and http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/36240/
15:42:03 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status Hosted engine glusterfs support (for existing glusterfs replica 3) is under review http://gerrit.ovirt.org/36264
15:42:06 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status Hosted engine with gluster provisioning is still in development
15:42:09 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status Node is a bit behind planning 3.6, which should get more attention now that they are closing down 3.5
15:42:12 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status Nightly build does not seem to include recent engine patches, this is due to engine master Jenkins jobs failing to build. vszocs is working on it.
15:42:15 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status No testing on 3.6 features is possible at the moment due to nightly build failure on Jenkins, and the possibly still open issue of vdsm 4.17 not reporting that it supports 3.6 engine.
15:42:19 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status The VDSM issue seems resolved for engine 3.6 supporting vdsm 4.17, but there are questions on how to properly solve the reverse situation, so solution is pending.
15:42:22 <bkp> Moving on...
15:42:25 <bkp> #topic conferences and workshops
15:43:32 <bkp> Here's what I have thus far...
15:43:34 <bkp> #info conferences and workshops FOSDEM prep proceeds. We will have 500 flyers and 200 t-shirts printed for oVirt booth. These are new shirts, with a straight-up logo.
15:43:37 <bkp> #info conferences and workshops bkp has not finalized plans on FOSDEM meetup, but it *will* happen.
15:43:40 <bkp> #info conferences and workshops There will be a presentation on the CentOS Virt SIG held in the Virt DevRoom, and we will have have oVirt represented. https://fosdem.org/2015/schedule/event/immutable/
15:43:44 <bkp> #info conferences and workshops The workshop for FOSSAsia in Singapore has been settled as a half-day session. We have one speaker coming in from China, bkp, and hopefully another local speaker. We could use one more to fill out the program, if someone in the community is interested.
15:43:49 <bkp> #info conferences and workshops amureini will be giving a talk at DevConfCZ in Feb, after FOSDEM
15:44:29 <bkp> #info conferences and workshops News and info about all FOSDEM sessions will be coming through on oVirt and Red Hat social media channels. Share, share, share!
15:44:41 <bkp> Any other conference news?
15:45:46 <sbonazzo> bkp still working to be at 11th Intl. Conf. on Open    Source Systems
15:45:57 <sbonazzo> http://www.oss2015.org
15:46:26 <vszocs> lvernia, sbonazzo fix patch is http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/36739/ I am addressing Eyal's / Alon's comments
15:46:41 <lvernia> vszocs: Cool :)
15:46:52 <bkp> Thanks, vszocs !
15:46:57 <bkp> #info conferences and workshops sbonazzo working to be at 11th Intl. Conf. on Open Source Systems http://www.oss2015.org
15:47:04 <bkp> Okay, moving on...
15:47:14 <bkp> #topic other topics
15:47:22 <bkp> #info other topics bkp has completed the 2014 metrics for oVirt and will be posting them soon. But as a preview, oVirt-engine was downloaded from the main Resources site 102,727 times in 2014. v3.4 led the pack with 51,195 downloads, followed by v3.3 with 39,273, and v3.2 with 8,893.
15:47:27 <bkp> #info other topics bkp is still looking for user tasks to help round out the oVirt documentation. Please contact bkp if you have any input.
15:47:30 <bkp> #info other topics bkp is also still looking for use cases for case studies. I have one lined up for Feb. (UDS Enterprise) but nothing beyond that.
15:47:40 <bkp> That's all from me. Any other issues to raise?
15:48:11 <bkp> Going once...
15:48:47 <bkp> Twice...?
15:49:28 <bkp> That's all for this week's sync. Keep your pedal to the metal! 10-4...
15:49:33 <bkp> #endmeeting