14:02:53 <ydary> #startmeeting oVirt Weekly Sync
14:02:53 <ovirtbot> Meeting started Wed Mar 25 14:02:53 2015 UTC.  The chair is ydary. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:03:05 <ydary> #topic Agenda and roll Call
14:03:07 <ydary> #info infra update
14:03:08 <ydary> #info 3.5.z updates
14:03:10 <ydary> #info 3.6.0 status
14:03:11 <ydary> #info conferences and workshops
14:03:13 <ydary> #info other topics
14:03:33 <ydary> who is here for weekly?
14:03:37 * bkp here for community
14:04:01 * awels here for UX
14:05:18 <ydary> anyone else?
14:05:29 <ydary> sbonazzo: ?
14:05:35 <ydary> doron_afk: ?
14:05:36 * sbonazzo here
14:05:36 * sahina here
14:05:55 <ydary> fabiand: weekly?
14:06:33 <ydary> #topic infra update
14:06:50 <ydary> dcaro|lunch: sbonazzo: can you update for infra?
14:07:05 <ydary> mvk: ^^
14:07:28 <sbonazzo> ydary: we got CI breakage due to various missing deps in vdsm master
14:07:36 <sbonazzo> ydary: we're now fixing
14:08:04 <sbonazzo> ydary: jobs queue in jenkins is over 200 jobs, we need to find a way to process them in a faster way
14:08:30 <eedri|wfh> sbonazzo, indeed. we are still waiting for new memory upgrades in phx lab
14:08:31 <ydary> #info CI breakage due to various missing deps in vdsm master is being fix now.
14:08:53 <eedri|wfh> mvk, any updates on the infra?
14:09:18 <ydary> #info Jobs queue in jenkins is over 200 jobs, we need to find a way to process them in a faster way. Still waiting for new memory upgrades in phx lab.
14:09:52 <sbonazzo> eedri|wfh: not sure adding ram will be enough, we should reduce job load. for example, no need to test a whole patch queue merged as a single patch
14:10:10 <sbonazzo> eedri|wfh: it causes 100 jobs to start when 10 jobs would have been enough
14:10:24 <sbonazzo> eedri|wfh: not sure how to get that
14:10:42 <eedri|wfh> mvk, and dcaro|lunch are looking into that
14:10:52 <eedri|wfh> sbonazzo, i hope we'll have something better by next week
14:11:01 <eedri|wfh> sbonazzo, another option is to run some jobs in sequnce
14:11:06 <sbonazzo> eedri|wfh: great news :-)
14:11:09 <eedri|wfh> sbonazzo, only after one is done
14:11:43 <awels> Also doing a rebase on a patch that has passed already should that restart the jobs?
14:12:39 <fabiand> ydary, weekly!
14:12:46 * fabiand is here
14:12:47 <ydary> #info Many jobs are starting for each patch causing load. Other than memory upgrade there is discssion on running some jobs in sequnce. mvk and dcaro are looking into this.
14:13:21 <ydary> awels: not sure what you mean?
14:14:06 <awels> Well sometimes I have to rebase a patch before I can merge, and that rebase kicks off another full run. But the rebase doesn't actually change anything, so why kick off another run?
14:14:34 <ydary> awels: how would you know that a rerun is not required?
14:14:56 <awels> No conflicts in the rebase?
14:15:37 <ydary> awels: you can still break something even if it passed and even if there is no conflicts
14:15:44 <ydary> sbonazzo: anything else?
14:15:51 <ydary> dcaro|lunch: mvk: ^^
14:15:56 <sbonazzo> ydary: nothing else on my side for infra
14:16:07 <awels> As it is now I should technically wait for the rebased run to finish, but in that time something else might be merged, and I need another rebase...
14:16:56 <ydary> moving on to 3.5.z updates, awels please discuss this with eedri|wfh & sbonazzo
14:16:59 <ydary> offline
14:17:03 <awels> ydary: okay
14:17:06 <ydary> #topic 3.5.z updates
14:17:13 <ydary> sbonazzo: can you update?
14:17:39 <sbonazzo> ydary: sent a status mail this morning here: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2015-March/032022.html
14:17:45 <sbonazzo> ydary: still 5 blockers open
14:18:05 <sbonazzo> ydary: plan is to build an RC3 next week once all of them will be fixed
14:19:41 <ydary> #info 3.5.z status: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2015-March/032022.html
14:20:11 <ydary> #info 5 blockers open, RC3 will be released next week, once they are all fixed.
14:20:18 <ydary> sbonazzo: anything else?
14:21:20 <sbonazzo> ydary: if someone is going to test 3.5 snapshot (now on 3.5.3) please use centos 7 with CR repo enabled
14:21:30 <ydary> #info 5 blockers open, oVirt 3.5.2 RC3 will be released next week, once they are all fixed.
14:21:36 <sbonazzo> ydary: it will help finding issues with CentOS 7.1
14:22:24 <sbonazzo> ydary: that's all on 3.5.z on my side
14:22:40 <ydary> #action 3.5 branch tester, please use the CentOS 7 with CR enable, since we want to get early issues with this update.
14:22:51 <ydary> sbonazzo: thanks!
14:23:05 <ydary> moving on to 3.6 status
14:23:12 <ydary> #topic 3.6 status
14:23:25 <sbonazzo> ydary: status sent on http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2015-March/032019.html
14:23:41 <sbonazzo> ydary: master has broken dependencies that we're trying to address right now
14:23:47 <ydary> #info oVirt 3.6.0 Status: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2015-March/032019.html
14:24:19 <sbonazzo> ydary: other thant that no many news on my side for releng
14:24:19 <ydary> #info Master branch broken on dependencies issues that is being worked on.
14:24:42 <ydary> sbonazzo: can you update on integ?
14:24:50 <sbonazzo> ydary: on integration, progress has been done for using cloud-init when deploying the engine using the appliance
14:25:33 <ydary> #info Integration 3.6 Status Update: Progress has been done this week for using cloud-init when deploying the engine using the ovirt-appliance.
14:25:38 <sbonazzo> ydary: and some progress has been done also on moving the hosted engine configuration to shared storage and supporting hyperconverged gluster
14:25:46 <sbonazzo> ydary: several patches are currently under review
14:26:08 <ydary> #info Also on moving the hosted engine configuration to shared storage and supporting hyperconverged gluster. Several patches are currently under review.
14:26:18 <sbonazzo> ydary: no progress with f22 and debian support
14:26:49 <ydary> #info No updates on Fedora 22 or Debian support this week.
14:26:59 <sbonazzo> ydary: for CentOS side, qemu-kvm-ev landed on Virt SIG for CentOS 7.1
14:27:03 <ydary> sbonazzo: are you stuck on something with these topics?
14:27:28 <ydary> sbonazzo: Fedora 22 \ Debian support?
14:27:31 <sbonazzo> ydary: waiting infra for wildfly / jdk 1.8 and reviewers for pending patches for debian
14:28:10 <sbonazzo> ydary: for debian side, debian ships an ancient libvirt package
14:28:33 <danken> sbonazzo: regarding -ev: do you plan to post a matching vdsm-side patch?
14:28:52 <sbonazzo> danken: won't be needed. qemu-kvm-ev provides qemu-kvm-rhev
14:29:41 <ydary> #info FC22 support pending infra for wildfly / jdk 1.8. In Debian patches are pending review and there is a issue of libvirt package version available.
14:29:52 <danken> sbonazzo: great
14:30:13 <ydary> #info In CentOS, qemu-kvm-ev landed on Virt SIG for CentOS 7.1.
14:30:37 <sbonazzo> ydary: that should be all for integration
14:30:37 <ydary> sbonazzo: anything else?
14:30:43 <ydary> sbonazzo: thanks!
14:31:00 <ydary> aaviram: can you update on storage work for 3.6.0?
14:31:45 <aaviram> business as usual with regards to features, potential issue with Hosted
14:31:45 <aaviram> Engine that may exist even in 3.5.0 is currently under investigation
14:31:45 <aaviram> (bug 1205225)
14:32:03 <danken> sbonazzo: but I suspect you'd need to add qemu-kvm-ev to caps.KEY_PACKAGES, for proper reports
14:32:59 <sbonazzo> danken: can you open a test only bug for it?
14:33:01 <ydary> #info Storage 3.6.0 Status Update: Hosted Engine issues that may affect 3.5.0 is currently under investigation (#1205225).
14:33:26 <ydary> aaviram: can you be more specific on changes in features for 3.6
14:33:49 <ydary> ?
14:35:36 <aaviram> That's all I know, sorry.. ask Tal for further info- unfortunately he's not available right now so this is what he told me to inform
14:35:55 <ydary> #info No updates on feature status.
14:36:11 <ydary> sahina: can you update on Gluster for 3.6.0?
14:36:30 <sahina> ydary, geo-replication, volume snapshot management, brick provisioning and choosing gluster network for bricks - features merged and testing underway
14:36:42 <sahina> We will be fixing the bugs over the next few weeks.
14:37:06 <ydary> #info Gluster 3.6.0 Status Update: Geo-replication, volume snapshot management, brick provisioning and choosing gluster network for bricks - features merged and testing underway.
14:37:42 <sahina> ydary, REST API for these features to be submitted over the next weeks as well
14:37:56 <ydary> #info Waiting on testing issues for inital sanity.
14:38:25 <ydary> #info REST API missing for these features and will be added in the next few weeks as well.
14:39:17 <ydary> sahina: anything else?
14:39:30 <sahina> ydary, no that's it
14:39:38 <ydary> sahina: Thanks!
14:39:46 <sahina> ydary, np
14:39:51 <ydary> awels: can you update on UX?
14:40:10 <danken> sahina: I know that vdsm side of the features is still stalling
14:40:15 <awels> ydary: Patternfly tooltip infrastructure merged
14:40:25 <awels> ydary: Italian translation at 50% now.
14:40:30 <danken> sahina: I wanted to make sure jenkis can handle the 3.7dev dependency
14:40:41 <sahina> danken, geo-rep create is the one that we're waiting on.
14:40:46 <awels> ydary: Everything else in progress.
14:41:22 <awels> ydary: Thats it on my side.
14:41:22 <sahina> danken, yes..i think sbonazzo has now added the glusterfs nightly repo. maybe when that gets merged?
14:41:37 <ydary> #info UX 3.6.0 Status Update: Patternfly tooltip infrastructure merged and Italian translation at 50% now. Other features are progressing nicely.
14:41:52 <sbonazzo> sahina: ovirt-release-master is already published, ovirt-live code merged
14:42:04 <sbonazzo> sahina: waitng for jenkins jobs update to be merged
14:42:28 <danken> sahina: https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/17644/32 awaits one last ack from you/bala.
14:42:32 <ydary> sahina: danken: sbonazzo: what is the topic?
14:42:42 <sahina> sbonazzo, cool and thanks!
14:42:56 <sbonazzo> ydary: gluster 3.7 nightly support on 3.6 master
14:43:02 <sahina> ydary, sorry..the missing gluster dependency
14:43:27 <ydary> sahina: can you please add more details, don't know it.
14:43:31 <ydary> ?
14:44:03 <danken> ydary: recent gluster patches require yet-to-be-released gluster 3.7
14:44:17 <danken> jenkin must pull them from glsuter nightly builds
14:44:24 <sahina> ydary, this is the infra issue sbonazzo discussed. the CI was broken due to dependency on gluster master (3.7)
14:44:39 <danken> sahina: other than the geo-rep patches https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/17644/32
14:44:53 <danken> sahina: am I missing other urgent merge requests?
14:44:57 <ydary> sahina: ok, then nothing to add in the update
14:45:15 <sahina> danken, no, I think
14:45:28 <ydary> fabiand: can you update on node?
14:45:38 <fabiand> ydary, sure
14:45:48 <fabiand> ydary, We made some big progress on the cockpit migration
14:46:11 <ydary> #info Node 3.6.0 Status Update: Big progress on the cockpit TUI migration.
14:46:13 <fabiand> ydary, rbarry added an initial backend for our configuration libraries to make them consumable from dbus
14:46:21 <fabiand> that code is now also in gerrit
14:46:31 <fabiand> we are currently pending builders and inclusion in some builds
14:46:49 <fabiand> We also progressed with refactoring to make the libaries consumable on regular hosts without breaking them
14:47:16 <fabiand> at last we made good progress on making the Engine appliance suitable for cloud-init usage, and a better integration with hosted-engine-setup
14:47:30 <ydary> fabiand: which libaries?
14:47:37 <fabiand> besides that some big effort is still in progress to clean up and align our jenkins jobs bette with the rest of ovirt
14:48:05 <fabiand> ydary, for the cockpit migration we will be reusing the existing libraries from ovirt-node, which can configure certain aspects of a system. so: ovirt-node libraries
14:48:48 <ydary> #info rbarry added an initial backend for our configuration libraries (reusing the existing libraries from ovirt-node) to make them consumable from dbus and patches are been pushed. Currently pending builders and inclusion in some builds. Also progressed with refactoring to make the libaries consumable on regular hosts without breaking them.
14:49:35 <ydary> #info Good progress on making the Engine appliance suitable for cloud-init usage with better integration with hosted-engine-setup.
14:49:48 <fabiand> I think that's it for now
14:50:12 <ydary> #info Big effort is still in progress to clean up and align the node jenkins jobs better with the rest of oVirt CI.
14:50:17 <ydary> fabiand: thanks!
14:50:35 <ydary> anyone can update on infra?
14:50:41 <fabiand> ydary, you are welcome
14:50:45 <ydary> oved: ^^
14:51:17 <oved> we're progressing in all fronts. noting main to update.
14:51:48 <ydary> #info Infra 3.6.0 Status Update: No updates from last week.
14:51:52 <sbonazzo> oved: news about wildfly / jdk8 ?
14:52:01 <ydary> danken: can you update for network?
14:52:17 <oved> sbonazzo, no. it is still under discussion with bazulay as not sure who will lead this effort for 3.6.
14:52:46 <sbonazzo> oved: thanks
14:53:18 <ydary> anyone can update for network?
14:53:40 <ydary> alkaplan: ^^
14:54:44 <ydary> mskrivanek: can you update on virt 3.6 work?
14:55:37 <ydary> doron_afk: can you update on SLA?
14:55:48 <mskrivanek> ydary: continuing on v2v, passthrough
14:55:57 <mskrivanek> ydary: Instance Types Images done
14:56:13 <mskrivanek> that's it for the 3.6 features....some small stuff in progress
14:56:59 <ydary> #info Virt 3.6.0 Status Update: V2V tool and passthrough devices work in progress. VM instance types images merged.
14:57:19 <ydary> anyone can update on sla\network?
14:57:42 <ydary> #info SLA 3.6.0 Status Update: No one attended from the team.
14:57:56 <ydary> #info Network 3.6.0 Status Update: No one attended from the team.
14:58:28 <ydary> moving on to conferences and workshops
14:58:35 <ydary> #topic conferences and workshops
14:58:41 <bkp> Hello
14:58:42 <ydary> bkp: can you update?
14:58:58 <bkp> Planning for KVM Forum is up and running. KVM- and oVirt-related talks should be submitted at http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/kvm-forum/program/cfp before May 1.
14:59:14 <ydary> #info Planning for KVM Forum is up and running. KVM- and oVirt-related talks should be submitted at http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/kvm-forum/program/cfp before May 1.
14:59:15 <bkp> There has been some discussion on the length of the oVirt Workshop track in this year's KVM Forum. Right now, it will be at least a full day, but if we get a bunch more oVirt sessions, then I can make the argument to try to expend the track's length.
14:59:38 <bkp> CFP for All Things Open in Raleigh on Oct. 18-20. gshereme has expressed interest in doing a Workshop there. This would be a good, and could fill the need to do a Workshop in Dublin around LinuxCon EU. (Which, while ideally located, would be kinda pricey.) CfP for ATO closes on April 30. http://bit.ly/1FUKYRv
14:59:41 <ydary> #info There has been some discussion on the length of the oVirt Workshop track in this year's KVM Forum. Right now, it will be at least a full day, but if we get a bunch more oVirt sessions, then I can make the argument to try to expend the track's length.
14:59:54 <bkp> Speaking of LinuxCon EU, CfP for that event on Oct. 5-7 in Dublin, Ireland (and the co-located CloudOpen) is now open as well. CfP closes on June 17, so there is time, but don't let it slip. http://events.linuxfoundation.org//events/linuxcon-europe/program/cfp
15:00:19 <bkp> Finally, FISL16 in Porto Allegre, Brazil CfP closes soon (March 30) http://segue.fisl16.softwarelivre.org/#/ I am not planning on attending, but any devs in the region are encouraged to attend this event. I *will* be planning on attending Latinoware in Brazil later in 2015, so oVirt will have some presentation in South America this year.
15:00:39 <bkp> That's all the new info for Events I have.
15:00:42 <ydary> #info CFP for All Things Open in Raleigh on Oct. 18-20. gshereme has expressed interest in doing a Workshop there. This would be a good, and could fill the need to do a Workshop in Dublin around LinuxCon EU. CfP for ATO closes on April 30 Details: http://bit.ly/1FUKYRv.
15:01:07 <ydary> #info LinuxCon EU, CfP for that event on Oct. 5-7 in Dublin, Ireland (and the co-located CloudOpen) is now open as well. CfP closes on June 17, so there is time, but don't let it slip. http://events.linuxfoundation.org//events/linuxcon-europe/program/cfp
15:01:50 <ydary> #info FISL16 in Porto Allegre, Brazil CfP closes soon (March 30) http://segue.fisl16.softwarelivre.org/#/. Any devs in the region are encouraged to attend this event. bkp id planning on attending Latinoware in Brazil later in 2015, so oVirt will have some presentation in South America this year.
15:02:03 <ydary> bkp: thanks!
15:02:22 <ydary> moving to other topics
15:02:24 <ydary> #topic other topics
15:02:30 <ydary> Does anyone want to raise an issue? discuss something?
15:02:40 <bkp> I have a few things.
15:02:53 <bkp> Automated conversion of oVirt.org from MediaWiki to MarkDown is proceeding. Most of the content is coming across fine, with some overly complicated documents (such as ones with tables and footnotes) needing a little extra post-conversion work. The big issue is ensuring all documents are properly categorized so they show up in the correct site topography when we are done.
15:03:12 <ydary> #info Automated conversion of oVirt.org from MediaWiki to MarkDown is proceeding. Most of the content is coming across fine, with some overly complicated documents (such as ones with tables and footnotes) needing a little extra post-conversion work. The big issue is ensuring all documents are properly categorized so they show up in the correct site topography when we are done.
15:03:16 <bkp> If you have input on the tools to be presented in the new site, please let me know. So far, confirmed new additions include an oVirt-specific blog and some sort of Q&A forum, such as Ask or a StackOverflow-based forum. Feedback welcome!
15:03:39 <bkp> Finally, still looking for case studies/users to highlight. itamar has pointed out a lot, but if you work with any oVirt users from new and interesting organizations, point them out to me.
15:03:41 <ydary> #action If you have input on the tools to be presented in the new site, please let me know. So far, confirmed new additions include an oVirt-specific blog and some sort of Q&A forum, such as Ask or a StackOverflow-based forum. Feedback welcome!
15:04:01 <ydary> #info till looking for case studies/users to highlight. itamar has pointed out a lot, but if you work with any oVirt users from new and interesting organizations, point them out to me.
15:04:23 <ydary> #action Still looking for case studies/users to highlight. Itamar has pointed out a lot, but if you work with any oVirt users from new and interesting organizations, point them out to me.
15:04:36 <ydary> bkp: anything else?
15:05:29 <ydary> ok then we will end here, have a great day!
15:05:46 <ydary> #endmeeting